Subject: Soon: New reward system and more
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Date: Aug 13 23
If you've been reading the right posts, you may have noticed that we've been busy behind the scenes. In fact, we're working on... big stuff.
While we're not quite ready yet to spill the beans, we'll say this much - a key element will be a new reward system to replace the current level system that has, over the last fifteen years, grown out of balance. Back in 2008, we had like 50 badges and point levels and badge levels were comparable. Level 80 was REALLY a lot.
As it stands now, top players have exceeded 250 levels - and almost all of that is from getting tier 1 on major badges. Almost nothing else matters - point levels are FAR apart once you are above 5 million or so.
Come September (we'll announce the exact date closer to release) this will change. The new system will give points some proper value beyond the first few again, it will reward gaining tiers, authoring, team play and just being active throughout the site. There will also be less of a distinction between minis and full badges - a differentiation we mainly made to keep levels from reaching 600 and above anyway!
Most of the back-end calculations are in place already - meaning you are already being tracked and rewarded for plays in ways you don't know... yet. But if you want to get a head start into the new system on top of what you've already done - gaining some tiers, playing a wide variety of games and authoring quizzes, questions and crosswords can do that.
Our end goal is to make FunTrivia feel a lot more like what it deserves to be: Not a random collection of quizzes and games, but rather ONE game pretty much like an MMO (massively multiplayer online) game- but one where you don't win by grinding character stats but rather where YOUR OWN skills determine your progress and success. All the elements for it have been there for a long time. We'll finally combine them.
(Of course if you prefer, you can keep treating things like a collection like you always did - you will still be able to play quizzes, win an hourly or work towards a GC title. But you can also look at the whole - and play FunTrivia.)
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Please note: We're announcing this early so you will know that we're working - and you may occasionally see things briefly not working as they should. If a problem should persist, by all means let us know immediately - major changes on a live system won't come without bugs.
Editors are already using the new system, so we hope to have enough testing to have a smoothly working version on release day that won't interfere with your play experience due to bugs. However, if you're absolutely bent on spending one month on THAT monthly you've been missing for ages and you know it's going to be tight, September might not be the best choice if you're worried about bugs. On the other hand, the transition might make players shift priorities and it could be easier than ever. It could go either way!
I would also like to ask you to not immediately knee-jerk react with a "rubbish" but rather wait until you've played with the new system.
Yes, it's always going to take some adjusting and a few players - those who have exclusively targeted high level by taking one tier of each badge and moving on - may find themselves in a less remarkable position. However if you're one of those players, you will also find ample easy opportunities to boost your tier count before the system goes live - so now is the time and you'll find it rather easy to catch up to your old status once you've harvested what should be ample low-hanging fruit for you!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Date: Aug 13 23
If you've been reading the right posts, you may have noticed that we've been busy behind the scenes. In fact, we're working on... big stuff.
While we're not quite ready yet to spill the beans, we'll say this much - a key element will be a new reward system to replace the current level system that has, over the last fifteen years, grown out of balance. Back in 2008, we had like 50 badges and point levels and badge levels were comparable. Level 80 was REALLY a lot.
As it stands now, top players have exceeded 250 levels - and almost all of that is from getting tier 1 on major badges. Almost nothing else matters - point levels are FAR apart once you are above 5 million or so.
Come September (we'll announce the exact date closer to release) this will change. The new system will give points some proper value beyond the first few again, it will reward gaining tiers, authoring, team play and just being active throughout the site. There will also be less of a distinction between minis and full badges - a differentiation we mainly made to keep levels from reaching 600 and above anyway!
Most of the back-end calculations are in place already - meaning you are already being tracked and rewarded for plays in ways you don't know... yet. But if you want to get a head start into the new system on top of what you've already done - gaining some tiers, playing a wide variety of games and authoring quizzes, questions and crosswords can do that.
Our end goal is to make FunTrivia feel a lot more like what it deserves to be: Not a random collection of quizzes and games, but rather ONE game pretty much like an MMO (massively multiplayer online) game- but one where you don't win by grinding character stats but rather where YOUR OWN skills determine your progress and success. All the elements for it have been there for a long time. We'll finally combine them.
(Of course if you prefer, you can keep treating things like a collection like you always did - you will still be able to play quizzes, win an hourly or work towards a GC title. But you can also look at the whole - and play FunTrivia.)
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Please note: We're announcing this early so you will know that we're working - and you may occasionally see things briefly not working as they should. If a problem should persist, by all means let us know immediately - major changes on a live system won't come without bugs.
Editors are already using the new system, so we hope to have enough testing to have a smoothly working version on release day that won't interfere with your play experience due to bugs. However, if you're absolutely bent on spending one month on THAT monthly you've been missing for ages and you know it's going to be tight, September might not be the best choice if you're worried about bugs. On the other hand, the transition might make players shift priorities and it could be easier than ever. It could go either way!
I would also like to ask you to not immediately knee-jerk react with a "rubbish" but rather wait until you've played with the new system.
Yes, it's always going to take some adjusting and a few players - those who have exclusively targeted high level by taking one tier of each badge and moving on - may find themselves in a less remarkable position. However if you're one of those players, you will also find ample easy opportunities to boost your tier count before the system goes live - so now is the time and you'll find it rather easy to catch up to your old status once you've harvested what should be ample low-hanging fruit for you!
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Mazee1 
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I'm down to about one on average, but then I haven't been playing as much lately because the weather has been too nice. Reply #481. Oct 23 23, 3:28 PM |
Qmel
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About the mini challenges becoming full challenges, will the prestige amounts change, and will those be applied retroactively? Reply #482. Nov 22 23, 1:51 PM |
WesleyCrusher
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None of the values will change. The difficulty of minis vs full badges was not consistent nor was it meant to be - we built things in a way that would let people get full badges (i.e. levels) both for easy and hard tasks. Some awards had a mini first, others had a full, then a mini, then another full. What DOES change is the definition of two challenges: Challenge Crusher and Challenge Mastery. Those will no longer look at mini or full, they'll look at the BASE prestige value (i.e. the value for one tier). Everything up to the threshold (4, if I am not mistaken) will be a minor award and thus have this little extra. So some old majors will become minors and vice versa, although the total count remains roughly the same. As usual, we won't take away any tiers. If you have tier 3 Challenge Mastery with 132 right now and the redefinition puts you on 124, you'll still have tier 3. You'll just have a longer way to go to tier 4. (I however expect more players to see an increase in qualifying challenges than those who see it go down as the pool of minor awards becomes somewhat easier on average). Reply #483. Nov 22 23, 4:15 PM |
lordprescott
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I just now noticed the changes in the badge system, when I looked at my profile page. I'm still not entirely sure how this is different but I'll probably get used to it at some point. Mostly I'm just not keen at how it is displayed. I liked it better when they were all seen on a separate "page", like how the Authoring Gallery paintings still are. It looks kind of confused as is. Reply #484. Nov 28 23, 7:55 PM |
Kenners158
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When I click "badge chart" and scroll down the list, it only shows the previous main badges as it has always done. Is there any plan to include the badges that used to be mini badges in that list? Reply #485. Nov 29 23, 8:24 AM |
fado72
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August 31 2023 the new reward systerm started. Reply #486. Aug 31 24, 4:04 PM |
gracious1
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Happy anniversary! Reply #487. Sep 02 24, 9:33 PM |
| WesleyCrusher
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It's been an eventful year in quizzyland. And there's something more to come. You may have noticed that 8th, still blank, badge grid. And there is a reason there are exactly 100 sub-ranks from the start to the ultimate title of Sentinel... Maybe, by the end of [redacted], we'll see more clearly. Reply #488. Sep 05 24, 2:23 PM |
Gumby1967
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Sounds very exciting. Reply #489. Sep 06 24, 5:19 AM |
ankitankurddit
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Sounds quite exciting! If [redacted] means by the end of October, it may arrive during the reign of an inevitable evil kitty. :) Also, my card expired, and my new card will arrive by the end of the following week. So, I am waiting for that to get my gold membership reactivated. However, in this break from quizzyland, I discovered gold at another place on this site (FT tipping competitions). I have been having fun there. Good day! Reply #490. Sep 06 24, 10:49 AM |
matthewpokemon
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ankitankurddit, if a certain twin is involved, then that's a slightly terrifying thought! Reply #491. Sep 06 24, 11:36 PM |
Evi_L_Twin
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Mwahammmmmmpppph... (Voice from nowhere): Back into your hole, scruffy one. Not your time. Reply #492. Sep 07 24, 1:51 AM |
| gracious1
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Was ist das? Reply #493. Sep 09 24, 6:46 PM |
| gracious1
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Oh, wait, Halloween is coming... Reply #494. Sep 09 24, 6:47 PM |
| Qmel
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Can Terry do something about the Evil Twin? Reply #495. Sep 09 24, 7:25 PM |
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