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Quiz about Competitive Pokmon History  ArceusWater
Quiz about Competitive Pokmon History  ArceusWater

Competitive Pokémon History - Arceus-Water Quiz


And now, in His Funtrivia finale, the Creator appears to sink the rest of this series in an indomitable flood via His Water forme. Try to stay afloat here, it's from generations 4-7!

A multiple-choice quiz by cavalier87. Estimated time: 6 mins.
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Author
cavalier87
Time
6 mins
Type
Multiple Choice
Quiz #
404,032
Updated
Dec 03 21
# Qns
10
Difficulty
Tough
Avg Score
6 / 10
Plays
80
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Question 1 of 10
1. Competing with the mighty Kyogre is a tough, nearly insurmountable task for virtually all Water types. However, Arceus-Water has two huge qualities that let it stand out in fourth generation Ubers. One quality is access to a boosting move that enabled strong physically offensive sets that Kyogre could never compete with. What boosting move was this? Hint


Question 2 of 10
2. Kyogre and even Palkia have seemingly superior profiles as a potential defensive Water type that would seem to leave Arceus-Water outclassed. However, it would be foolish to assume that the Creator didn't have something up His divine sleeve to separate Himself from the pack in that regard. What defensive quality did it uniquely possess compared to the competition? Hint


Question 3 of 10
3. Water types in Ubers are naturally thrust into a spotlight in which they are compared and end up competing for a teamslot with Kyogre. While Arceus-Water wasn't terribly different, it happened to benefit from the presence of a Kyogre on its team, run in tandem with it. There were actually quite a few reasons for this. Which of the following is one of them? Hint


Question 4 of 10
4. While Arceus-Water seems infallible as an offensive Water type, it did indeed have to contend with a few counters heading into the fifth generation. Which of the following was an example of a Pokémon who could reliably switch in and defeat it? Hint


Question 5 of 10
5. The dynamic of Arceus-Water experienced a night-and-day overhaul, as the sixth generation Uber meta exploded with changes that forced Arceus-Water to adapt to stay viable. Were it's physically offensive sets still viable here?


Question 6 of 10
6. As a defensive bulky Water type, Arceus-Water was tasked with handling quite a lot of threats. Generally, it could handle plenty of threats on paper, but in practice, it didn't have enough moveslots to account for all of them. It's defensive moveset was incredible, though, so this was a good problem to have. With Recover and Defog being the only truly mandatory moves, Ice Beam, Toxic, Judgment and Will-o-Wisp made out its other viable options for a pairing. Which pairing of the following, however, was the only truly unviable one? Hint


Question 7 of 10
7. While not necessarily 'countering' Arceus-Water in the strictest sense, as a support forme of Arceus, it did become quite weak to one method of dispatching defensive Pokémon in the sixth generation and onward. What method was this? Hint


Question 8 of 10
8. Overall, Arceus-Water's many qualities as a defensive Pokémon uniquely granted it the status of being a 'blanket check' to a wide array of Uber threats in the sixth and seventh generation. What is a rough definition of 'blanket check' in this context? Hint


Question 9 of 10
9. With great bulk and Speed, Arceus-Water could hard counter Pokémon that no other Arceus forme could in the seventh generation. Which of the following is an example? Hint


Question 10 of 10
10. Overall, Arceus-Water has probably been the best forme of Arceus over the years through the end of the seventh generation. It's usage statistics reflect that sentiment, as it has overall been the most used forme of Arceus during that time. Which of the following is true about Arceus-Water over that time? Hint



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Quiz Answer Key and Fun Facts
1. Competing with the mighty Kyogre is a tough, nearly insurmountable task for virtually all Water types. However, Arceus-Water has two huge qualities that let it stand out in fourth generation Ubers. One quality is access to a boosting move that enabled strong physically offensive sets that Kyogre could never compete with. What boosting move was this?

Answer: Swords Dance

Lacking access to the other three options, Swords Dance is nevertheless a stellar boosting move. Water was a fine offensive typing, giving the set the ability to quickly turn a devastating sweep if left unchecked.
2. Kyogre and even Palkia have seemingly superior profiles as a potential defensive Water type that would seem to leave Arceus-Water outclassed. However, it would be foolish to assume that the Creator didn't have something up His divine sleeve to separate Himself from the pack in that regard. What defensive quality did it uniquely possess compared to the competition?

Answer: Instant, reliable recovery

Access to Recover made Arceus-Water nearly entirely superior to the competition as far as a bulky Water type goes. The only advantages Kyogre had were being better at dealing with Darkrai and offering rain support to its team; Arceus-Water did everything else better.
3. Water types in Ubers are naturally thrust into a spotlight in which they are compared and end up competing for a teamslot with Kyogre. While Arceus-Water wasn't terribly different, it happened to benefit from the presence of a Kyogre on its team, run in tandem with it. There were actually quite a few reasons for this. Which of the following is one of them?

Answer: Kyogre's rain makes Arceus-Water more potent

After a Swords Dance boost and when benefitting from Kyogre's rain, Arceus-Water's Waterfalls become frighteningly brutal to face down at. To give an idea of its absurd power, it even 2HKOes Giratina-O despite its resistance to the move and incredible bulk. If anything of Kyogre's complements Arceus-Water particularly well, it would be Kyogre's amazing Specially offensive qualities, beating down physical walls that can stand up to Arceus-Water's physical assaults.

The same can be said vice versa, as Arceus-Water can generally easily deal with special walls that would slow Kyogre down.
4. While Arceus-Water seems infallible as an offensive Water type, it did indeed have to contend with a few counters heading into the fifth generation. Which of the following was an example of a Pokémon who could reliably switch in and defeat it?

Answer: Giratina-Altered

The key thing to note about countering Arceus-Water is that it was extremely common for it to be paired with Kyogre, thus usually receiving an offensive boost from Kyogre's rain support. Therefore, anything looking to counter it generally had to resist Water on top of having amazing physical bulk. Giratina-O came close, but it was usually 2HKOed by Swords Dance + Rain boosted Waterfall while generally failing to outslug Arceus-Water after giving it a free turn to switch in. Ferrothorn and Kyogre itself also joined Giratina-O in that regard, despite all of them resisting Water.

Giratina-A, however, was so extremely bulky and resisted Water that it could tank Swords Dance + Rain boosted Waterfalls admirably. From there, it could temper Arceus-Water's raging maelstrom with a Will-o-Wisp, halving its offenses, before Roaring or Dragon Tailing it off the field to clear out any Swords Dance boosts it had picked up. This made it a picturesque counter to the Creator in this forme.
5. The dynamic of Arceus-Water experienced a night-and-day overhaul, as the sixth generation Uber meta exploded with changes that forced Arceus-Water to adapt to stay viable. Were it's physically offensive sets still viable here?

Answer: No

The introduction and subsequent dominance of Primal Groudon rocked the meta for Water types, and the Creator was no exception. Swords Dance sets were now quite underwhelming, easily being stopped by P-Don itself. Additionally, Arceus-Water's defensive traits were far more attractive to the average team, ironically making it out to be quite a great P-Don check as well as a check to plenty of prominent threats in general.

As such, Arceus-Water became a lot more one dimensional, but didn't really suffer a loss to its viability.
6. As a defensive bulky Water type, Arceus-Water was tasked with handling quite a lot of threats. Generally, it could handle plenty of threats on paper, but in practice, it didn't have enough moveslots to account for all of them. It's defensive moveset was incredible, though, so this was a good problem to have. With Recover and Defog being the only truly mandatory moves, Ice Beam, Toxic, Judgment and Will-o-Wisp made out its other viable options for a pairing. Which pairing of the following, however, was the only truly unviable one?

Answer: Judgment + Will-o-Wisp

A moveset of Judgment/Will-o-Wisp/Recover/Defog was incapable of doing a single point of damage to Primal Groudon, who Arceus-Water was relied on to at least slow down, if not outright check. Therefore, Judgment + Will-o-Wisp was a no go. Replacing either Judgment with Ice Beam or Will-o-Wisp with Toxic, or perhaps doing both, was basically compulsory because of that.

Ice Beam + Toxic, according to Smogon usage statistics, was the most common pairing for Arceus-Water to go with Recover and Defog. Ice Beam + Toxic made out the best response to Primal Groudon, able to afflict it with deadly poison and continually damage it with Ice Beam to speed up the process of wearing it down. This did come with the consequence of leaving Arceus-Water at the mercy of Mega Lucario, but this could be efficiently patched up via a teammate suitably equipped to deal with it.

Ice Beam in generally was recommended somewhere on Arceus-Water to allow it to deal with Mega Salamence, Rayquaza and, to a lesser extent, Yveltal. If the player already had ample countermeasures to them, however, Judgment's good general neutral damage was a solid pick. The player could opt to forgo both Will-o-Wisp and Toxic in order to fit Judgment and Ice Beam on the same set if they so desired, enabling Arceus-Water to check the aforementioned threats, be capable of damaging Primal Groudon, dealing with Mega Lucario, and doing good general damage if desired.
7. While not necessarily 'countering' Arceus-Water in the strictest sense, as a support forme of Arceus, it did become quite weak to one method of dispatching defensive Pokémon in the sixth generation and onward. What method was this?

Answer: Trapping

Mega Gengar and Gothitelle had a tough time directly switching into an active Arceus-Water. However, if given a free switch, they can proceed to shut Arceus-Water down and remove it from the game. This could be quite a setback if a healthy Pokémon Arceus-Water needs to check remains, or if it hadn't Defogged away entry hazards at that point.
8. Overall, Arceus-Water's many qualities as a defensive Pokémon uniquely granted it the status of being a 'blanket check' to a wide array of Uber threats in the sixth and seventh generation. What is a rough definition of 'blanket check' in this context?

Answer: Being able to generally check most Pokémon

Arceus-Water didn't match up well against every single thing, but if it wasn't at a completely obvious disadvantage, it would perform pretty well most of the time. It wasn't super good at dealing with setup sweepers or trappers that weren't weak to its attacks, but it wasn't passive to the point where it was total setup fodder or could be easily switched into. Apart from that, it could generally deal with most threats, adding lots of integrity to a defensive team's backbone.
9. With great bulk and Speed, Arceus-Water could hard counter Pokémon that no other Arceus forme could in the seventh generation. Which of the following is an example?

Answer: Zygarde-C

A swift Ice Beam would allow Arceus-Water to quickly beat down any Zygarde set that dared to stand before it. While super effective Judgments would seem to beat Ho-Oh down, Ho-Oh's mighty Special Defense and the general lack of significant Special Attack investment let it take Judgment quite well and ultimately enter a stalemate with the Creator.
10. Overall, Arceus-Water has probably been the best forme of Arceus over the years through the end of the seventh generation. It's usage statistics reflect that sentiment, as it has overall been the most used forme of Arceus during that time. Which of the following is true about Arceus-Water over that time?

Answer: It has offered the best defensive role compression

Arceus-Water has been the only forme of Arceus capable of blanket checking most of the metagame. Other formes of Arceus have been more vulnerable to a surprise coverage move, status, both, or something else that have stopped them from achieving this status. Being able to generally deal with much of the meta has heavily eased the need for the rest of the team to patch up holes that aren't there thanks to Arceus-Water. With power levels blasting through the roof after the sixth generation, Arceus formes became more useful based on defensive presence, and the Water forme has definitely stood tall amongst the pack in that regard.
Source: Author cavalier87

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