Subject: Soon: New reward system and more
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Date: Aug 13 23
If you've been reading the right posts, you may have noticed that we've been busy behind the scenes. In fact, we're working on... big stuff.
While we're not quite ready yet to spill the beans, we'll say this much - a key element will be a new reward system to replace the current level system that has, over the last fifteen years, grown out of balance. Back in 2008, we had like 50 badges and point levels and badge levels were comparable. Level 80 was REALLY a lot.
As it stands now, top players have exceeded 250 levels - and almost all of that is from getting tier 1 on major badges. Almost nothing else matters - point levels are FAR apart once you are above 5 million or so.
Come September (we'll announce the exact date closer to release) this will change. The new system will give points some proper value beyond the first few again, it will reward gaining tiers, authoring, team play and just being active throughout the site. There will also be less of a distinction between minis and full badges - a differentiation we mainly made to keep levels from reaching 600 and above anyway!
Most of the back-end calculations are in place already - meaning you are already being tracked and rewarded for plays in ways you don't know... yet. But if you want to get a head start into the new system on top of what you've already done - gaining some tiers, playing a wide variety of games and authoring quizzes, questions and crosswords can do that.
Our end goal is to make FunTrivia feel a lot more like what it deserves to be: Not a random collection of quizzes and games, but rather ONE game pretty much like an MMO (massively multiplayer online) game- but one where you don't win by grinding character stats but rather where YOUR OWN skills determine your progress and success. All the elements for it have been there for a long time. We'll finally combine them.
(Of course if you prefer, you can keep treating things like a collection like you always did - you will still be able to play quizzes, win an hourly or work towards a GC title. But you can also look at the whole - and play FunTrivia.)
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Please note: We're announcing this early so you will know that we're working - and you may occasionally see things briefly not working as they should. If a problem should persist, by all means let us know immediately - major changes on a live system won't come without bugs.
Editors are already using the new system, so we hope to have enough testing to have a smoothly working version on release day that won't interfere with your play experience due to bugs. However, if you're absolutely bent on spending one month on THAT monthly you've been missing for ages and you know it's going to be tight, September might not be the best choice if you're worried about bugs. On the other hand, the transition might make players shift priorities and it could be easier than ever. It could go either way!
I would also like to ask you to not immediately knee-jerk react with a "rubbish" but rather wait until you've played with the new system.
Yes, it's always going to take some adjusting and a few players - those who have exclusively targeted high level by taking one tier of each badge and moving on - may find themselves in a less remarkable position. However if you're one of those players, you will also find ample easy opportunities to boost your tier count before the system goes live - so now is the time and you'll find it rather easy to catch up to your old status once you've harvested what should be ample low-hanging fruit for you!
Posted by: WesleyCrusher
Date: Aug 13 23
If you've been reading the right posts, you may have noticed that we've been busy behind the scenes. In fact, we're working on... big stuff.
While we're not quite ready yet to spill the beans, we'll say this much - a key element will be a new reward system to replace the current level system that has, over the last fifteen years, grown out of balance. Back in 2008, we had like 50 badges and point levels and badge levels were comparable. Level 80 was REALLY a lot.
As it stands now, top players have exceeded 250 levels - and almost all of that is from getting tier 1 on major badges. Almost nothing else matters - point levels are FAR apart once you are above 5 million or so.
Come September (we'll announce the exact date closer to release) this will change. The new system will give points some proper value beyond the first few again, it will reward gaining tiers, authoring, team play and just being active throughout the site. There will also be less of a distinction between minis and full badges - a differentiation we mainly made to keep levels from reaching 600 and above anyway!
Most of the back-end calculations are in place already - meaning you are already being tracked and rewarded for plays in ways you don't know... yet. But if you want to get a head start into the new system on top of what you've already done - gaining some tiers, playing a wide variety of games and authoring quizzes, questions and crosswords can do that.
Our end goal is to make FunTrivia feel a lot more like what it deserves to be: Not a random collection of quizzes and games, but rather ONE game pretty much like an MMO (massively multiplayer online) game- but one where you don't win by grinding character stats but rather where YOUR OWN skills determine your progress and success. All the elements for it have been there for a long time. We'll finally combine them.
(Of course if you prefer, you can keep treating things like a collection like you always did - you will still be able to play quizzes, win an hourly or work towards a GC title. But you can also look at the whole - and play FunTrivia.)
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Please note: We're announcing this early so you will know that we're working - and you may occasionally see things briefly not working as they should. If a problem should persist, by all means let us know immediately - major changes on a live system won't come without bugs.
Editors are already using the new system, so we hope to have enough testing to have a smoothly working version on release day that won't interfere with your play experience due to bugs. However, if you're absolutely bent on spending one month on THAT monthly you've been missing for ages and you know it's going to be tight, September might not be the best choice if you're worried about bugs. On the other hand, the transition might make players shift priorities and it could be easier than ever. It could go either way!
I would also like to ask you to not immediately knee-jerk react with a "rubbish" but rather wait until you've played with the new system.
Yes, it's always going to take some adjusting and a few players - those who have exclusively targeted high level by taking one tier of each badge and moving on - may find themselves in a less remarkable position. However if you're one of those players, you will also find ample easy opportunities to boost your tier count before the system goes live - so now is the time and you'll find it rather easy to catch up to your old status once you've harvested what should be ample low-hanging fruit for you!
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Edzell_Blue
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Is this a GM perk? I don't get any points for doing quizzes except the Quiz of the Hour when I get 100 points. Reply #361. Sep 03 23, 7:49 PM |
kyleisalive
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All bonuses attributed to new prestige ranks can be found at this link:  https://www.funtrivia.com/prestigeranks.cfmAnything with a gold star is GM-only. Reply #362. Sep 03 23, 7:54 PM |
postcards2go
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Edzell_Blue... It's not so much that the extra points are specifically 'Gold Member only', but at a certain point, non-Gold Members don't have their scores counted for doing quizzes, so extra points also wouldn't count. You should, however, get the double 'Quizzes of the Hour' credit. So, on the 'Quiz of the Hour' homepage, you should see your total number of quizzes played for the badge increase by two, rather than by one. Reply #363. Sep 03 23, 8:24 PM |
| Edzell_Blue
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Something must have been reset during the Prestige upgrade because I started to get points. That cam to a halt yesterday when I was about three quarters through trying to get to Tier 2 of 24 hours of history to complete a challenge. Thank you for your responses. Reply #364. Sep 03 23, 8:43 PM |
runaway_drive 
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Does the "erase a score" perk work in the same way as the old mulligans in terms of team league scoring? If I got a 1450 for example, played my Expert mulligan and got a 1350, my 1450 would still count as my highest score for team scoring. Reply #365. Sep 03 23, 10:48 PM |
Verbonica
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Thank you, Wesley, for your tips on the Twin Challenge: "1) If your score per question is 17, 19 or 21, you can just get the needed number of answers on any quiz you have not yet played before. You can reach all 10 digits this way. 2) If your score per question is 16, 18 or 22, you can't use it to adjust odd/even. In this case, play to the end digit 5 away (-3, if you need -8) and then replay an old quiz you have scored perfectly on. It's still 5 per in that case, so you only need any odd number correct." I was having a devil of a time with it because of my 19 until I read that. Of course, at first I didn't realize that I was scoring 19 and the old Mash maneuver repeatedly didn't work. I'm not sure that I understand the 16, 18, 22 one, but I'm glad the 19 advice worked for me. Reply #366. Sep 04 23, 10:51 AM |
jasa9092
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I love the Twin Challenge. Reply #367. Sep 04 23, 12:37 PM |
WesleyCrusher
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Verbonica - 16, 18 and 22 can't turn an odd number into an even one or vice versa. Thus, they're not quite as versatile as 17, 19 and 21. However if you use the "replay quiz" GM perk, you still get exactly 5 for each question up to your previous best. So you can take a quiz you scored perfectly on in the past (the past perfect score ensures you'll ONLY get 5s) and replay. Get 1 right, 5 points. Or get 9/10 or 15/15 for 45 and 75 respectively. Now your odd/even is correct (and if you had played to the units digit 5 away from your target before, you're already set) So it can be one extra step with those numbers - using the 5 to fix odd/even. Otherwise it's effectively the same thing. Reply #368. Sep 04 23, 2:06 PM |
rupert774
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Does this help? The easiest way to set your last digit is really to use a mash and get exactly one question correct. You need six times the number of game points as the number of FT points you want, i.e.: 1 point needed - 6 2 needed - 12 3 needed - 18 4 needed - 24 5 needed - 30 6 needed - 36 7 needed - 42 8 needed - 48 9 needed - 54 Your timing can be off by 2 either side and still work: 34, 35, 36, 37 and 38 all work for a 6. If you don't want to intentionally get questions wrong, just hit the others on exactly 60. Reply #369. Sep 04 23, 2:29 PM |
| rupert774
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Wes- you hyad put the above on the team chat thread a long time ago- it helps me immensely on the Twin challenge. Reply #370. Sep 04 23, 2:30 PM |
kaddarsgirl
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rupert774, the issue that was raised is that the table you just listed worked under the old system for everyone but the multiplier is off now for people with +X quiz scores which complicates the use of that method. Reply #371. Sep 04 23, 3:52 PM |
PHILVV
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Read my replies. The method is explained for 19 in reply 342. If you are in 18, you change 19 by 18 in the reply 342. Reply #372. Sep 04 23, 10:04 PM |
| PHILVV
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Method for the twins already explained : If you use a masher(like 15 duels) explained By brm50diboll in reply 337 By me in reply 336 If you use a quizz, method explained by me in reply 342. Reply #373. Sep 04 23, 10:37 PM |
Gumby1967
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Could the New Standings please be expanded? I can only see who is in front of me, not behind. At least put the Player in the Middle of the Table, not at the bottom. Top 100 should be expanded to at least 200. Reply #374. Sep 05 23, 1:23 AM |
| WesleyCrusher
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You can check your exact position and the players both above and below you in GM stats. Reply #375. Sep 05 23, 1:27 AM |
| Gumby1967
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Thanks Wes. Could you please direct me there. I'm not sure I'm looking in the right place, because I can't find it. Reply #376. Sep 05 23, 1:37 AM |
| Gumby1967
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I got it now. GM Ranks. New Prestige Entries. Thanks. Reply #377. Sep 05 23, 1:40 AM |
MariaVerde
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The Fantasy Knockout profiles still use levels instead of prestige Reply #378. Sep 05 23, 8:06 AM |
CmdrK
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Most, if not all, of the badge descriptions still say "+1 level". Reply #379. Sep 05 23, 11:23 AM |
Jennifer5
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Likewise for the stats page 'FunTrivia Stats Central ', also the email telling you you have won a badge. Reply #380. Sep 06 23, 3:05 AM |
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