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What is the oldest English county?

Question #40224. Asked by gmackematix.
Last updated Aug 31 2016.

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shady shaker
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It's the one that's been there longer than any of the others and my guess is that it is one of the Home Counties and my next guess is that it is Middlesex.






Response last updated by gtho4 on Aug 31 2016.
Oct 22 2003, 4:55 AM
Siskin
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Siskin

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Tis Wiltshire, with the prehistoric Stonehenge, and the centre of the Saxon Kingdom of Wessex.

Malmesbury being the oldest borough in the country.

Oct 22 2003, 6:39 AM
Senior Moments
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Hampshire lays claim to being the oldest.

Response last updated by LadyNym on Aug 21 2016.
Oct 22 2003, 6:44 AM
Senior Moments
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Response last updated by LadyNym on Aug 21 2016.
Oct 22 2003, 6:45 AM
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Cornwall lays claim to being the oldest according to [spirit-of-adventure.com/high_hopes/cornwall.html] Link no longer exists

I think I shall stop looking now.

Response last updated by LadyNym on Aug 31 2016.
Oct 22 2003, 6:47 AM
Siskin
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Perhaps the proper counties are the 'shires' so that excludes Kent and Middlesex and Cornwall.

Yay - or nay?

Oct 22 2003, 7:31 AM
Siskin
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I will mention shires just once more - Triggshire was once part of north east Cornwall.



Response last updated by LadyNym on Aug 21 2016.
Oct 22 2003, 11:08 AM
mochyn
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mochyn
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IT IS GWENT

Oct 22 2003, 3:52 PM
gmackematix
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Someone has asked me this in the pub and I am trying to collate enough evidence to come down on one answer. Annoyingly, all SM's sites include a grand claim to be the oldest without anything to back it up.

Kent has quite a good claim as it was part of the Saxon heptarchy of 7 kingdoms formed in the 7th century AD (as were Sussex and Essex - but not Middlesex) and has a name dating back at least to the 1st century BC.
While Wiltshire may contain Stonehenge and the oldest borough, I'm not sure it has been "Wiltshire" for that long.
I must say that my own county of Shropshire must be one of the least altered since the Norman conquest.

Anyway, did the title county originally mean an area ruled by a count or earl, in which case the oldest will surely be linked to the first such title? Or is it something to do with counting.
I need more convincing before I hand out a "yay" on this one.

Oct 22 2003, 10:55 PM
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TheBoyPipe
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From Encarta:
The conquest of the Danelaw was completed by Alfred’s son, Edward the Elder (ruled 899-924), and by his grandson Athelstan, who won a great victory at Brunanburh in 937.

The conquest of the Danelaw meant the creation of a unified government for all England and the evolution of the territorial state, which was replacing the kinship structure of earlier times. The king ruled with the assistance of the witenagemot, a council of advisers who participated in the issuing of dooms and oversaw the selection of kings. About 40 shires (counties) were created out of former kingdoms or from significant military or administrative units. Each had a shiremoot, or court etc...

link http://referaty.aktuality.sk/england-everything-about-england/referat-16336

Any use?

Response last updated by LadyNym on Aug 31 2016.
Oct 23 2003, 8:15 PM
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There seems to be no definitive answer, as a number of counties (including Essex, as stated in this article: link http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cornwall-is-celebrating-after-being-granted-minority-status-but-what-of-other-english-counties-9284240.html) claim to be the oldest.

Aug 31 2016, 6:19 AM
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