Subject: does word wizard have a sense of humor?
Posted by: garrybl
Date: Jun 14 19
I've been struggling for a week with terrible letters.
But having got to a point where I could see light at the end of the tunnel Ive had 11 letters three times in the past few days.
My 12th letter when I was looking for an 11 letter word has been first Z, then X, then J.
Each time I clear out the *** killer letter in a four letter word and go back to try again...but it really feels like the system is mocking me. And yes I expect the Q any moment now.
Posted by: garrybl
Date: Jun 14 19
I've been struggling for a week with terrible letters.
But having got to a point where I could see light at the end of the tunnel Ive had 11 letters three times in the past few days.
My 12th letter when I was looking for an 11 letter word has been first Z, then X, then J.
Each time I clear out the *** killer letter in a four letter word and go back to try again...but it really feels like the system is mocking me. And yes I expect the Q any moment now.
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MiraJane 
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There are no Word Wizard editors. Terry decided to modify an existing free online dictionary. This is not Scrabble. Words acceptable in Scrabble may not be acceptable here. Words not accepted in Scrabble are point worthy here. I find it more fun to use "not accepted in Scrabble word" to earn points. Reply #161. Jul 18 20, 3:32 PM |
harbilked
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Since there has been much discussion about disallowed words, which seem so obviously in common usage that they should be allowed, I wanted to share my thoughts. The philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein argued that everything that can be said, can be said clearly, without the use of superfluous language and moreover it only makes meaningful sense to talk about observable, empirical entities, while statements concerning emotion are viewed as meaningless, since they cannot be verified, or rather "emotively meaningful". This is a key concept on which the school of Logical Positivism is based, I studied this when I was at university, and I also studied the law of the excluded middle in logic, which basically states that for any statement, either the statement itself, or its negation is true. The mathematician Brouwer argued that actually the law of the excluded middle actually does not necessarily hold, when dealing with infinite sets, since you could never check an infinite number of items. Way back when I first joined FunTrivia, I remember one of the first times I got the Share a Story challenge, I shared a poem, since, the thread instructs this for those who wish to. However I did not share the meaning of it, which is incredibly long and complex, but I can honestly say I really felt like I understood Wittgenstein when I thought about this. As jupiter cries out tsunamis Neptune swept up cheesecakes will still be here Basically, the poem, even though it is in english, also relies on Russian grammar rules, since I wrote it when everything started to "make sense" to me in Russian. I wrote it in honour of my favourite composer Holst, who composed the monumental orchestral suite "The Planets". Since he's my favourite composer, I watched a documentary about him, which said he was bullied in sports when he was at school, moreover in addition to this, still 150 years later, the rugby and football teams here still think they own his work, because they sing a patriotic hymn, "i vow to thee my country" to the tune of the 4th movement of The Planets, Jupiter, The Bringer Of Jollity, when they don't even know who Holst, is, or show any respect for him whatsoever, yet they still think they own his work. However, Holst was a musical genius, and he actually wrote the first piece of music in history to have a fading out ending, which is the final movement of The Planets, Neptune, The Mystic. And here's how he achieved it. Holst gave specific instructions for a womens' choir and sub-conductor to be placed in an adjoining room, the door of which is slowly and silently closed, as the final bar of the piece, consisting of only the choir, is repeated over and over, to indicate the sound being lost in the distance. And he thought of this before we had any technology to achieve a fading out ending. So basically, the meaning - in english, we have alternative dictionary definitons of both the words "tsunami" and "cheesecake" other than their primary use, tsunami, aside from meaning a large destructive wave, can also mean an overwhelming or large increase in number, for example "a tsunami of olympic spectators". And the Russian language has declension, which is where the endings of words change, according to noun gender and number. Since we don't have declension in english, we have stricter word order in sentences, whereas in Russian, if you want to say "the father loves the son", it's actually possible to say them in the order "the son loves the father", while still preserving the same meaning, provided you change the ending of "son" while leaving "father unchanged". So "As jupiter cries out tsunamis" could be taken to mean "As tsunamis (the crowd of moron sports teams/fans who stole Holst's work) cry out jupiter (the work of Holst), moreover tsunami is actually an indeclinable noun in Russian, since its ending coincides with the instrumental plural, however, if the ending of "Jupiter" was changed in Russian, this could indicate the god from Roman mythology, since Holst was inspired by Roman mythology. Moreover, in Russian, the accusative case = genitive case only for living beings, otherwise it equals the straightforward nominative case. So this is what makes the meaning in english unclear, because, it relies on inside knowledge of Russian grammatical cases. The alternative definition of "cheesecake", aside from the dessert, it can also mean "images of women displayed for sex appeal, usually in scantily clad clothing etc.", basically, it corresponds to the masculine term "beefcake". Also in english we have "i will be, you will be.... etc." they are literally all the same for all pronouns, whereas in Russian, each ending is actually different for each pronoun, meaning it's actually possible to give a clear, precise meaning, even while omitting the pronoun. So it's impossible to translate into Russian, since both the "Neptune" and the "cheesecakes" can't "still be here", however, i see it as already partly in Russian by the grammatical rules. Ludwig Wittgenstein created a thought experiment, "the beetle in the box", which is, imagine a group of people, each one has a box, no-one's allowed to look inside anyone else's box, and they all have something inside it called a "beetle". They can talk meaningfully about the "beetle" despite being from mutually exclusive viewpoints, and Wittgenstein went on to develop a "private language argument", that it's impossible for language to be private, and sensations of inner private feeling such as "pain" are actually public words. So there's an analogy of the "cheesecakes" in my poem, to Wittgenstein's beetle in the box. I have read many books about Wittgenstein, one which tried to explain his ideas in a nutshell, said something like "language has precise rules, but these can get broken, but there's different degrees of ungrammaticality." and it went on to say something like "imagine you're playing football, and you have to stick to the rules. Well if you picked up the ball with your hands and started running with it, it wouldn't be long before someone said you were breaking the rules, however, if you knocked the ball with your arm just below your shoulder?" And i seem to remember it compared language to this, saying it can be difficult to make clear distinctions. While in the Word Wizard game, with words like repositions, recalibrate and memorised over on the thread which is now closed, you might argue that all these are definitely within the rules, but then no individual can ultimately own the dictionary, because, everyone has freedom of thought, and while language is always changing, it can't change drastically overnight, due to this public meaning. Yet there are certain words which are naturally more specialist than others, like for example, imagine being just like "oh qiviut (hair of the Arctic muskox) isn't in, how ridiculous!" But this is an observable entity, which is precisely what Wittgenstein deals with, there are just different levels of obscurity, this is why the whole of language cannot be dictated by just one individual. Because i actually feel like i understand Wittgenstein for myself, this is precisely why I don't like to memorise individual quiz answers, even if i have seen them before, because this is not based on empirical knowledge. I respect the fact, that players who use tricks such as mnemonics and other memory aids are a lot more likely to do better than me in quizzes, and i am prepared for that, since i'd prefer to just focus on areas that i actually know for myself, and not have other players treat me condescendingly, as people on other quiz games in the past have done. This is precisely why, in the past i have felt the need to try to post sly, sarcastic comments to the chatboards, because people have done it to me on other games, i was absolutely furious about this, especially other word games, because, they just thought they were better than me, when they didn't understand the same things i understood, as they clearly showed, or they wouldn't have used mnemonic aids etc. But i just woke up one day and realised that everyone here is actually nice, and i'm not treated condescendingly, so i should be showing the same respect i receive from everyone else. Over on the thread about Levels vs. Points, where it has been discussed about players with high numbers of wins in games such as Who's the Expert and the Duel being some of the most feared and respected players on FunTrivia, well i'm sorry, but i don't respect such players as much and definitely don't fear them as much as all the girls who have defended me on other games by translating verbal abuse into Russian, from the idiots there who just posted condescending verbal abuse to me, i respect players who do well at the Expert and Duel etc. just for being nice people and while i do have to admit that their achievements are impressive, my brain works in a different way to theirs. Also I've already promised too many different girls more virtual gifts than I have credits for, in return for all their efforts in defending me, because, they have all made effort to listen to my explanation of my poem and the metaphysical properties of languages formulated by Wittgenstein in Russian, which i have been able to explain understandably in Russian, and they have shown respect for my knowledge, more than the idiots on other games, I'm just going to have to get more credits I guess. Reply #162. Jul 20 20, 8:52 PM |
PAX1961
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FOR Word Wizard words I use a app to unscramble the words and find about half the words I come up with aren't allowed. Reply #163. Jul 21 20, 12:49 AM |
Iva9Brain
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I frequently cannot even find a four-letter word even though I have plenty of letters. Maybe my brain is too scrambled these days to try and unscramble the letters I get! Reply #164. Jul 21 20, 6:47 AM |
| harbilked
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Well obviously i don't play word wizard anymore, since all my confidence and interest has been sucked out of me, i was actually trying to remember the other anagram of relations/tensorial, then i couldn't think of it for ages, so i thought up "tailerons", i mean what is that, i guess "ailerons" the parts of an aircraft with a t added before it. Then i remembered the other vaild anagram of that trashy game was "orientals", which was allowed in the plural which seems racist anyway. Nor could i remember the other anagram of "organist", or indeed if it had another anagram, when this word actually came up in my Russian anagram game i play, which has just way nicer people, then i remembered that oh yeah it was "roasting", which of course wouldn't be the same in Russian, however another word "romanist" (novelist) was there from the same combination of letters, and the only clues i were given were the r and i in the right places, which of course coincides with roasting, so i tried "roasting" in Cyrillic characters, just for old time sake and of course it came up with a big red x, so then i watched the interest i had had in anagrams from a young age fall down the gutter. At least i still have my Russian ones with nicer players though. And also, one of my friends who is from Russia, but moved to america, said that the same kind of idiots bullied her on words with friends also, i mean, what utter cowardice to do that to a non-native speaker, so i asked her to tell me their names so i could hurl a load of abuse at them, but she said she couldn't remember and she wasn't even that bothered anyway. In a way, this is actually how i was able to achieve Tier 2 in the monthly upgrade for the duels, with the support of my friend, since i was so upset to hear those idiots had treated her like that, so like, no matter how bad i started losing at the duels, i just kept going strong, and i actually nearly achieved 60% for the month, however, for me to actually achieve the next tier of at least 60% for the month seems incredibly difficult, since i really am just average, and there's usually at least one day where i get a low number of wins like 3 or 4, so i rely on support from other friends, i didn't think this was really appropriate to mention on the Duels thread, given how precarious it is, but yeah, i feel like that was how i achieved it. Reply #165. Jul 21 20, 7:50 AM |
brm50diboll
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It's not cheating to use a word finder. I certainly do, and I suspect most other regular Word Wizard players do as well. There are several good ones available on the internet. Find one, type in the letters you have, press submit, and up pops multiple words that can be made from those letters. You do have to check to see if the Word Wizard dictionary will accept a word you may want to submit, though and, as has been noted here frequently, many perfectly good words fail to make the cut for whatever reason. Reply #166. Jul 21 20, 7:53 AM |
| harbilked
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Well unfortunately for me, the people on the other game which i played seemed to think using a word finder was cheating, which is why i should probably not say any more on the subject, i don't exactly have anything else appropriate to say anyway, i don't play word wizard anymore, so it's not relevant to me, i just wanted to share the meaning of my poem, which demonstrates my understanding of Wittgenstein, and yeah, i had better just not say any more, before i am worried it will become too political regarding the meanings of words (even though i guess it's not really that much to do with politics, i remember one of my lecturers jokingly said, when we were discussing, why does my calculator say "math error" when i try 0 to the power 0, because it should still be one, as it represents an empty mapping, of which there is precisely 1, and then yeah my lecturer was just like "we're getting into politics now", i myself don't really know much about politics anyway, so i should just go and play the other games.) Reply #167. Jul 21 20, 8:11 AM |
| Iva9Brain
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Now why did I not think of looking for a word finder? Reply #168. Jul 21 20, 8:12 AM |
namrewsna
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I certainly don't hold using a word finder tool in that game against anyone. I also don't really hold it against you if you make the oft repeated complaint that the game isn't accepting a word you know to be a real English word, which just happens to not be in the word database of the game. If however you do both, you may in fact, really be asking for a good old boot to the head ;) Reply #169. Jul 21 20, 8:21 AM |
| brm50diboll
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If I may quibble on 0 to the power of 0, that is what is known as an "indeterminate form". These can be very interesting limits in calculus. Other interminant forms include 0/0, infinity/infinity, 1^infinity, infinity minus infinity, etc. When in doubt, the answer is 3. However, there is no doubt that 0! = 1. Given that (n+1)! = (n+1)n! and that 1! = 1, it follows by substitution of m = n + 1 that (m - 1)! = m!/m, so, choosing m = 1 gives us 0! = 1 as asserted. If this isn't adequate, I could always invoke the gamma function and its relationship to factorials. My maternal grandmother was worried about me, telling my mother too much knowledge makes you crazy. Reading Ecclesiastes on that point doesn't help, actually. Reply #170. Jul 21 20, 1:21 PM |
| brm50diboll
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And i^i = e^(-pi/2), which I always found fascinating as the imaginary unit to the power of the imaginary unit yields a real number. Reply #171. Jul 21 20, 1:26 PM |
psnz
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Given my burgeoning collection of vowels, I went looking for the longest words you can make in English using only those five letters. Unsurprisingly, Wikipedia has an article about this very subject:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_without_consonants The longest word according to Wikipedia and some other sources means "a musical cadence". It's "Euouae". Does the Wizard like it? Silly question, of course not. Reply #172. Jul 21 20, 2:25 PM |
| MiraJane
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harbilked, thank you for sharing with you the explanation of your poem. Writing poetry is a very personal thing. Sharing the meaning is more personal. I appreciate you sharing your feelings with us. Back to Word Wizard letters: I don't have 12 letters yet but I see letter trading in my future. These are my letters: A E A A A C E A A Reply #173. Jul 22 20, 8:42 AM |
| harbilked
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Oh Thank You so much for your such kind words MiraJane, it's so nice to play with such pleasant, intelligent people here. I wish you and everyone else good luck in word wizard! As for the word marathon badge, well i think i'd more readily complete the monster quiz than obtain that. I think I gave a lot of the explanation of my poem in a muddled order, I'm used to telling it on other games using ruder words in both Russian and english, of course, i'm equally grateful for your appreciation. Here are links further explaining it, with greater empirical knowledge, for those who are interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x86hLtOkou8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQQGi4gN6gII'm so grateful to have the opportunities to play a range of such amazing games here, and I try to keep the things I post within the rules, and not offend anyone, finally learned my lesson regarding posting obscenities/rude words in Russian. This includes the haiku I wrote translating lyrics to the Russian pop singer Olga Buzova over on the Virtual Blogs, basically I would say she's sort of like a Russian version of Arianna Grande, she has a lot of haters, but a lot of people love her as well, myself included. I did actually search the lyrics, and I couldn't see anything definitely blatantly rude, moreover the music video seems generally ok, but she's one of those singers where I did have to have just that moment of hesitancy just like "hmmm", analogous to the Family Guy episode where Stewie's scared of the album cover to Killer Queen, and Brian's just like "the monster didn't kill Kiss, they're all fine.... most of them are fine." because, he realises what he's saying, so analogously for me, I did have to check both the lyrics and the video, they both seemed overall generally acceptable for Funtrivia. And sure, back to word wizard, good luck to all, and I hope you all receive nicer combinations of letters! Reply #174. Jul 22 20, 9:20 AM |
| DireWolf74
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"And i^i = e^(-pi/2), which I always found fascinating as the imaginary unit to the power of the imaginary unit yields a real number." That's the power of imagination. It's magic. Reply #175. Jul 22 20, 9:21 AM |
| namrewsna
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Yikes Mira. Though I have found "C" to be a surprisingly versatile letter. Made a few 11 letter words using it when I was thinking I had nothing. One trade and (presumably) some consonants out of the next few rounds and you could suddenly be in solid shape. Reply #176. Jul 22 20, 9:24 AM |
| MiraJane
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Okay, I've finally played three more games and have three more letters! Here's the line up: O E P A E A A A C E A A Yah. Well... Um... I can make the four letter, one point word Pace .... Reply #177. Jul 22 20, 8:13 PM |
| MiraJane
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So.. What did I do? Yes, you've all been waiting breathlessly for three minutes to find out ... I traded AA for another versatile C. Reply #178. Jul 22 20, 8:15 PM |
| MiraJane
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I've got a hog call now: S U U W O E E E Reply #179. Jul 25 20, 11:28 PM |
Caseena
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I have 12 letters, and in Calvin's words, "All I've got are consonants." Reply #180. Aug 02 20, 12:06 PM |
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